Best tyres for coupe

[Roadster]

Hi again guys. Thought it would be better to have a chat over subject matter under new heading rather than park it under my ongoing topic on "brand new coupe colour".

This new topic should interest all coupe owners as the original 225/45/16 tyres are such a a bitch to find as I painfully discovered!

I will NOT be shodding my new 20 VT with the Torino replaced FK 451 for the original P-Zero that came with the car. There are better ones as I discovered from my reseach!!!

From my tyre review websites research and chats with various dealers in PJ/KL, I managed to nail down the 3 best 225/45/16 tyres for the coupe! I'm only interested in that original tyre size as other sizes (like 205) would simply affect the handling perfomance of the car. And the 3 best are the Yoko ADO7 (RM537), Toyo T1-R (RM436) and Falken FK 452 (RM490). And the best of the best is definitely the ADO7!!! Just check out the tyre reviews on Tirerack, 1010 tires. All the top performance car (STi, 911s, M3/5, Lotus etc etc) owners rave about the ADO7. The most consitent comments about the ADO7 are its super sticky grip in both wet and dry, steering responsiveness, and exceptional cornering. It has been described by owners as "awesome", "absolutely bloody marvelous", "amazing" etc etc. How can I not buy the ADO7 for my coupe?!

Well, any comments from anyone out there with ADO7s? Or any other tyres (225/45/16 size) you would recommend over the AD07? Your comments should be very beneficial to all coupe owners present and future.

Cheers!

[jeffchua]

Potenza also not bad!

[gtfan]

For ultimate grip, go for AD07 as compared to pirelli. Just be careful on the rain as it tends to aquaplane if u hit puddle.

[gash]

woot what a timely thread as I'm also thinking of changing tyres for my coupe....as well as the timing belt, brake pads, fan belt and the whole jing bang. damn..im going to be frickin broke. Praying hard for the torino carnival to come again.

Anyway back to the topic, does the AD07 last longer than the fk451 for normal usage? Have been using the fk451 for almost 2 years and it seems to last pretty well.

[Violence666]

The AD07's offer extreme grip in the dry and reasonable grip in the wet, it is the only road going tyre that u can use to track in without destroying it after 10-15 laps..

however if u dont track get a toyo, rs-2 and save yourself some money...

[gash]

cheers vio. That exactly what i need to know.

[pistole]

:lol:

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[pistole]

:lol: :lol: :lol:









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[FlameON]

Ouch...

[Violence666]

bear in mind people that pasir gudang is a track which is completely different from sepang....

that kind of wear displayed by pistole would only be prevalent in PG, of course it can happen in Sepang but that would probably be with lesser tyres and poor inflation

[myLittleMonster]

terror wow ... pistol.

AD07 is good enuff for Normal daily drive ...

MLM

[FlameON]

pistole, your tyre bill looks like my annual coupe maintanance bill.

[myLittleMonster]

show us your toys behind those tyres.

MLM

[desin]

show us your toys behind those tyres.

MLM

hehehe... it seem like JET

[tanraymond]

wow... i tot that was pistole's tayar shop in JB :lol: :lol:

[pistole]

teruk lah you all ....



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[Roadster]

pistole
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Holy sh*!t. Did you thrash those lovely Yokos aound the Monza circuit or what?! They sure put Yul Bryner's crowning glory to shame! Thanks for the pics. But I'm still clinging to my dreamy Yokos - "One bald tyre does not a bad tyre make!"

[myLittleMonster]

"One bald tyre does not a bad tyre make!"

bad driver ... kekekeke.

cabut

MLM

[jeffchua]

on track his is bad driver ...............hehehe :lol:

[pistole]

totally agree that my use is not representative of the tayar's
capabilities , or lack thereof.

but I have used alot of types of tyres on track , and if its
dry-grip that you're talking about , the ADs are not all that
they're hyped out to be , nor do they justify the price
premium that they command (again , for dry grip).

in the wet , drive slow.

:lol:

ya, I drive like crap.

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[Violence666]

:lol:

[pistole]

KNN !!!

:lol:

[myLittleMonster]

KNN !!!

:lol:

filter?

MLM

[jeffchua]

:lol:

[Violence666]

:lol: :lol:

[FlameON]

:lol:

[pistole]

monyet , semua.

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[Roadster]

Thanks for your contributions to the "best tyres". I don't have experience with Japanese tires, and hence reason for seeking your views. My tire preferences have always stayed true to Pirellis and Michelins for my roadsters and "serious" sedans for business. Period. And those tyres do bristle and smell rubbery good when new.

Have been doing more research on the best tyres for the 20VT, and directions still point pretty much the same way to the AD07s! I note the comments on its weaker wet handling, and promptly asked C&C for a test drive on the EVO IX shod with ADO7s. It was a very wet NKVE before dusk on that forlorn day but the ADO7s performed with aplomb! Very little sign of traction fade with hard breaking, cornering and road water cleared off its grooves like a monsoon drain. No chance to drift in wet but should not disappoint. I guess it boils down to the car also (awesome beast the EVO but strictly for boy racers, Yakuzas, and people of similar ilk - sorry if you do own one-only my opinion); and individual driving style. Needlless to say, the tires stuck to the road like elephant glue when dry - man, that super sticky-ness is good enough for me! And surely good for drifting. The distributors warned me that the tires would probably last for 1 to 2 years max, and that was music to my ears! Love new tires as much as new cars. And so it is - ADO7s! Promptly ordered 8 pieces - all '06 manufactures - to be delivered next week. Looks like the 20VT is set to go come Jan 2 '07 save for the rego number. Another battle looms - demanding same number as my other cars, but that's another tale not as dramatic, more insipid. So shall spare you all from my usual tirade on that issue. Yes, can sense gasps of sheer relief out there and suppressed cries of "gimme a break" from the tedium of my verbosity!!!

I note that there were discussions centred around using 205s/215s rather than the factory standard 225s. Or using different tire sizes for front and rear. I stick religiously to factory recommendations - I quote from the handbook of one of my roadsters - "Manufacturers invest major R&D in matching spring and damper settings to a model's factory standard tyres. And especially so for top line performance models. This combined tyre/suspension package affects all dynamic performance. Varying recommended pressure, specifications, size, model will likely alter your car's character. And often to its detriment" . Ah! Brilliant expose!
Enough said. Takeaway message - don't much around with factory recomendations unless you want your bambino Ferrari to perform like a turbo charged bas sekolah.

Would welcome contrarian views on above.

Cheers!

[myLittleMonster]

monyet , semua.

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true ... :lol:

[pistole]

i nak muntah lah ...

tak bleh tahan.

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[Roadster]

To complete my contribution to the best tyres for the coupe (20VT), it's definitavely the ADO7! After chalking up 1,2000 km from new, I can understand the rave reviews and the much higher cost compared to the T1-R, FK 452 and the F1. Worth every sen. Grip is simply, simply incredible especially around bends. To fully harness those 220 horses, grip is not everything - it's the ONLY thing that matters! Save on lesser tyres and you're probably riding on maybe 180 horses!

Religiously followed the owner's instruction manual, and shodded the mandatory 225/45/16 rubbers. Additionally, followed the recommended tyre pressures ie. 2.7 (39) front and 2.2 (32) rear to the letter. That wasn't good enough. Fixed Japanese made tyre valves with long life threads and rubber seals that would last a lifetime - it better do as it costs RM75/valve! That level of quality should ensure that the tyre pressures stay constant on prolonged hard driving over long stretches. Just need good valves to match the excellent tyres.

And just to make sure the wheels are not stolen (not that it matters cost wise but Yokos of that size are so damn hard to come by not to mention that it would take Torino forever to import another set of alloys), fitted wheel lock nuts that had to be modified to fit the alloys. Yes, even lock nuts that fit the stock wheels are hard to come by - only one shop at the Sunway boy racer stretch of shops had it, and only one set left.

Conclusion - grab the AD07s blindly if the costs don't cripple you. They are the penultimate ride on the full 220 horses!

[gash]

hey guys, where's a good place in pj/kl that carries a decent variety for our coupe tyre profiles? that's 225/45/16 right?

anyone knows if the new re-011 comes in this profile and if they're any good? thanks

[gash]

Is there a distinct difference between using the 205/50/16 and the 225/45/16 specs for coupe? Is the difference big enough for a common driver to notice? There seem to be more choices of tyres for the former specs to choose from. I notice some of you coupes uses the former specs tyres. Would appreciate if you can offer some feedback. Cheers!

[gtfan]

Diff.....yes. In term of grip n comfort too. 205/50/16...more comfy and cheaper. 225/45/16.....the car feel more planted, better grips, more harsh n expensive.

[muninn]

With the 225, u can actually see the difference in the width of the tyres. It IS visibly thinner if u have the 205s on.

Other than that, I think the 225s would be more vulnerable to aquaplaning during heavy downpours.. so drive slower. I've skidded a few times already.

[gash]

ahh cool.. thanks guys! Wait..what's your definition of slower? I sort of realised people in IA have a different yardstick. Anyway will check out the prices and if the diff is not too big, i'll probably stick to the 225s.

[alfabob]

Guys,

Can anyone point me to where I could get the Toyos??

[jeffchua]

hi alfabob....you can try the TOYO R1R,i think not bad

[desin]

no $, therefore fitted Bridgestone RE001 205/50/16 last Saturday


*i think it's better than Goodyear F1 made by our neighbor Tõmyªm country.
*bias over Goodyear... :p

[desin]

[Redd]

Can anyone point me to where I could get the Toyos??

Toyo T1-R are pretty soft compound and dont last very long. they also tend to scrub very badly under track use. so i cant recommend them. a lot of the guys who've tried T1-R have upgraded to AD07 or gone back to Eagle F1 GS-D3.

i'd try the new bridgestone RE-001. ive heard only good things about them. but they are assym tread design so u can only rotate front-to-rear.

if ur still adamant on the Toyos, the distributor is Heap Soon:

Heap Soon
58 Jalan Segambut Bawah
Segambut
51200 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-62505428

If ur familiar with the Segambut area, u head towards Auto Bavaria/Toyota service centres. then u keep going, take the right-hand bend and Heap Soon will be on your right. Big "Falken" signboard.

redd

[gash]

Just fitted 225/45/16 Hankook Ventus RS-2 over the weekend. So far so good but it's too early to tell. Seems to be just a tad noisier than the fk451. Paid rm380 for each.

Hupshun in Kelana has the T1R but quoted rm488 which I think is a bit ex. They also quoted the Falken fk-452 for rm488 if anyone is interested.

[Redd]

in the dry the RS-2 is one of the best bang-for-the-buck high performance tires out there. but be very careful of the RS-2 in the wet and on the limit. it also needs warming up so dont push it hard first thing in the morning.

redd

[desin]

Just fitted 225/45/16 Hankook Ventus RS-2 over the weekend. So far so good but it's too early to tell. Seems to be just a tad noisier than the fk451. Paid rm380 for each.

Hupshun in Kelana has the T1R but quoted rm488 which I think is a bit ex. They also quoted the Falken fk-452 for rm488 if anyone is interested.

rm380 each for 225/45/16!!!! WAH!!!!!!!!! That's really good buy!!!!
damn!!!! i paid rm350 each for 205/50/16 for Bridgestone RE001

[gtfan]

Just fitted 225/45/16 Hankook Ventus RS-2 over the weekend. So far so good but it's too early to tell. Seems to be just a tad noisier than the fk451. Paid rm380 for each.

Hupshun in Kelana has the T1R but quoted rm488 which I think is a bit ex. They also quoted the Falken fk-452 for rm488 if anyone is interested.

rm380 each for 225/45/16!!!! WAH!!!!!!!!! That's really good buy!!!!
damn!!!! i paid rm350 each for 205/50/16 for Bridgestone RE001

Hahahah told u to buy from KL cheaper. If compare...fk452 and T1R, falken wins hand down. For dry grip...besides AD07 or semi-slick, Hankook Kimchi Rs-2 is the the best for dry handling.

[desin]

Just fitted 225/45/16 Hankook Ventus RS-2 over the weekend. So far so good but it's too early to tell. Seems to be just a tad noisier than the fk451. Paid rm380 for each.

Hupshun in Kelana has the T1R but quoted rm488 which I think is a bit ex. They also quoted the Falken fk-452 for rm488 if anyone is interested.

rm380 each for 225/45/16!!!! WAH!!!!!!!!! That's really good buy!!!!
damn!!!! i paid rm350 each for 205/50/16 for Bridgestone RE001

Hahahah told u to buy from KL cheaper. If compare...fk452 and T1R, falken wins hand down. For dry grip...besides AD07 or semi-slick, Hankook Kimchi Rs-2 is the the best for dry handling.

*sound like $350 throwing down the drain...
*nevermind...!!! 1yr later will switch to this RS-2!!!!!
*any trip held next month? wanna go to Hatyai or Songkha?? feel like driving there for holiday. i got VERY DETAIL whole Thailand GPS map, anywhere also won't be lost. wanna go???

[stevo]

The RE001 is a pretty good tyre too base on Gilaman's review. He's tried T1-R and AD07 before... In fact he quite like the RE001... Gila, gila,... review?

[thkc]

The RE001 is a pretty good tyre too base on Gilaman's review. He's tried T1-R and AD07 before... In fact he quite like the RE001... Gila, gila,... review?

gila give rubber, i mean tyre review? hmm... hehehe

[superman]

RE001 is the cheapest among all?

[Redd]

RE001 225/45/17 is made in japan and quite cheap right now. as i understand it, the other sizes are made in thailand.

the same ol' marketing ploy started by GS-D3.

redd