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Re: Project 300.

Postby desin » Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:36 pm

question is always "how often u squeeze ur car to top-end?"... if turbo lag is NOT an issue to u, and u offer to squeeze >4k-rpm, then... go ahead for FMIC with BIG turbo. otherwise if u prefer maybe ~3k-rpm torque kick-in, fast spooling, small-turbo and SMIC is the solution. my case... ha...?! ahem.. my car is SLOW okay... it's SLOW... :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby raitag » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:22 pm

no lar desin... car is fast... u slow now... :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby enzy » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:06 pm

desin wrote:question is always "how often u squeeze ur car to top-end?"... if turbo lag is NOT an issue to u, and u offer to squeeze >4k-rpm, then... go ahead for FMIC with BIG turbo. otherwise if u prefer maybe ~3k-rpm torque kick-in, fast spooling, small-turbo and SMIC is the solution. my case... ha...?! ahem.. my car is SLOW okay... it's SLOW... :mrgreen:


Can pls tell me which is big n which is small turbo?
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Re: Project 300.

Postby pistole » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:14 pm

raitag wrote:no lar desin... car is fast... u slow now... :mrgreen:


- haha , yeah.

- alot of us here gettin older.

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Re: Project 300.

Postby desin » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:44 pm

pistole wrote:
raitag wrote:no lar desin... car is fast... u slow now... :mrgreen:


- haha , yeah.

- alot of us here gettin older.

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Re: Project 300.

Postby Loki » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:41 pm

enzy wrote:Can pls tell me which is big n which is small turbo?


A turbo's size depends on 3 things:

a) the compressor wheel
b) turbine wheel
c) housing

You can have the same sized wheels in a turbo with a larger or smaller housing (also known as Area to Radius = A/R). For example the Garret GT35R (GT3582R) has a 65 pound compressor wheel (meaning it can flow 65 pounds of air per minute) but Garret as a company does offer different A/R sizes. They offer a .63, a .82 and a 1.06 (plus other sizes that I'm not aware of).

Now, most folks go with a .82 on this size turbo because it works well with the size of the compressor wheel. Now you can have a bigger housing, which will leave the potential for more power but this will also add more lag because you now have a larger area to fill with compressed air. The larger the compressor wheel, the more power it will push, but the more lag you will have. Now a smaller turbo would have less lag but it will also push less air.

Power has to do with the size more so then how much air there is flowing. If you had two turbos (A and B) and A was twice the size of B, but both are flowing 15lbs of air, turbo A would put down much more hp then turbo B. Imagine if you this if you will - you fill a 8oz paper cup with 15lbs of compressed air and you were to also fill a 32 gallon drum with 15lbs of compressed air. Yes they both have 15lbs of air but the it took a lot more air to make 15lbs in the 32 gallon drum then the 8oz paper cup. It would take longer to fill the drum too (this is called lag), but when you were to use that air for an explosion, the 32 gallon drum would have a much larger explosion because it had more air.

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Re: Project 300.

Postby enzy » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:26 am

Thanks for the info Loki :thumbs:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:30 pm

When I was in London last month FC Performance delivered my order of 440 cc injectors and a 3.8 bar FPR to the hotel I was staying. :mrgreen: I have yet to put em in.

Some of you might know that I am contemplating to go Haltech engine tuning, but after much consideration, I have decided to stick with FC Performance :mrgreen: Don't be a guinea pig :P Since Flea is very experience tuning FIAT in UK. So, now is just for me to pay for the stage 4 and wait for the chip to arrive. Wuhoo!

Looks like I will be exceeding way past 300 bhp.
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:42 pm

Have to change title la like this....
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:43 pm

ognam wrote:Have to change title la like this....


If over 400 bhp then only change title. :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Kelv27 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:02 pm

Sam, while in the process of going for 400 it must be called 'Project 400' marr.. :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby stevo » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:24 am

Project 500 la... aim high :)
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Raziack » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:14 am

aim higher.. like class B rally cars..
1759 cc four cylinder engine combined supercharging and turbocharging to reduce turbo lag at low RPM and officially the car produced 480 horsepower (352 kW). Independent figures show the S4 could accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) on gravel in under 2.3 seconds.
and this is the legendary coupe's elder brother (Lancia Delta S4).... many of Lancia Tech went into coupe especially the Integrale Evoluzione II .. so keep the hopes high n fingers crossed..
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:22 am

Raziack wrote:1759 cc four cylinder engine combined supercharging and turbocharging to reduce turbo lag at low RPM


Want to put hand in the engine bay also cannot, want to put supercharger.. heh... dude, your oil still with me! :P

UN... forged engine, forged engine, forged engine! :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:50 am

Yeah! Mod mod mod :twisted:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Raziack » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:46 pm

ognam wrote:
Raziack wrote:1759 cc four cylinder engine combined supercharging and turbocharging to reduce turbo lag at low RPM


Want to put hand in the engine bay also cannot, want to put supercharger.. heh... dude, your oil still with me! :P

UN... forged engine, forged engine, forged engine! :mrgreen:


oh ya, my hair oil.. sorry man, i was outstation n my phone konged and i'm still wondering what should i get to replace my long friend n70..
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:51 pm

In the handling department, after putting in the Whiteline anti roll bar to replace my broken UR, the car feels alive again. Going in and out of corners with much renewed confidence.

Now waiting for the chip by FC Performance to arrive and it will be time to install the bigger fuel injectors and fuel pressure regulator.
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Loki » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:57 pm

UlysseNuovo wrote:In the handling department, after putting in the Whiteline anti roll bar to replace my broken UR, the car feels alive again. Going in and out of corners with much renewed confidence.

Now waiting for the chip by FC Performance to arrive and it will be time to install the bigger fuel injectors and fuel pressure regulator.


Told ya :mrgreen:. Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi O Oi!

He he, managed to poison a lot of Coupes into using Whiteline ;).
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:18 am

Oi! :mrgreen:

14/11 - Got home after a very very long day. Saw a very familiar envelope sitting on the table. Yes! Yes! Yes! It is here. :twisted:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby raitag » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:47 am

Bila mau dyno?
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Re: Project 300.

Postby kvinlim » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:05 am

Dyno, call me also. Want to learn from sifu here how to do up the coupe :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:22 pm

raitag wrote:Bila mau dyno?


It is more like, bila mau pasang :P
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Re: Project 300.

Postby jefferyalfa » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:37 pm

i also want to bzbody, bila mau pasang and dyno?
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Re: Project 300.

Postby kvinlim » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:10 pm

Jeff, we dyno first la, they different league, go organize a small dyno group, I also can dyno alr :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:38 pm

UlysseNuovo wrote:
raitag wrote:Bila mau dyno?


It is more like, bila mau pasang :P


Jom Craven! Haha!

kvinlim wrote:Jeff, we dyno first la, they different league, go organize a small dyno group, I also can dyno alr :mrgreen:


I might be going Saturday morning or Friday afternoon.
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Re: Project 300.

Postby kvinlim » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:56 pm

ognam, this week cannot la, going to penang for marathon event :cry:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby jefferyalfa » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:02 pm

This Thurs at MLM to pasang timing belt. How long need to drive b4 can dyno with new belts?
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Re: Project 300.

Postby raitag » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:40 pm

ognam, friday after prayer... jom... am free that day, if my leave is approved...
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:01 pm

Oh I thought Friday prayer at GT Auto :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby DeaDLocK » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:16 am

Hehe maybe I sibuk. Would like to dyno actually just to make sure fuelling is okay... :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby enzy » Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:58 pm

I want to join too, waiting for long time d, can't wait anymore!

But pls do it during weekend la bro :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:48 pm

Can't do Friday. Got in a minor fender bender. Maybe Saturday. Gotta get that fixed.

UN, faster put in chip! Have you installed the injectors and FPR? This thread is gonna change name to Project 350 soon! :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby DeaDLocK » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:00 pm

I too gatal (never dynoed my car before), so I popped over to JC Racing today. 217whp, 31kg/m, OB at 1.4 bar, sustained 1.0/1.1, A/F holds 12 all the way. Phew!
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:15 pm

Good results from the gtec. That's about 250bhp. 50 shy of thread starter. :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby DeaDLocK » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:38 pm

Makes me wonder whether spending the 10k to go up to a solid 320bhp is worth it. In my case, I think not.
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Re: Project 300.

Postby ognam » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:57 pm

DeaDLocK wrote:Makes me wonder whether spending the 10k to go up to a solid 320bhp is worth it. In my case, I think not.


Bragging rights are priceless. Haha. But in hindsight, how many cars worth less than rm100k (mods included) can achieve that much power and look good? ;)
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Kelv27 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:19 pm

Different people, different priorities. Some choose to spend 10k on more power while some choose to spend on beauty products. In Deadlocks case, he chooses the latter. :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Loki » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:33 pm

ognam wrote:
DeaDLocK wrote:Makes me wonder whether spending the 10k to go up to a solid 320bhp is worth it. In my case, I think not.


Bragging rights are priceless. Haha. But in hindsight, how many cars worth less than rm100k (mods included) can achieve that much power and look good? ;)


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Re: Project 300.

Postby Kelv27 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:38 pm

Go on then Loki.. 8-)
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Re: Project 300.

Postby Loki » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:18 pm

Kelv27 wrote:Go on then Loki.. 8-)


The key words here are "less than 100k". And so without further ado (and I'm not hijacking UN's thread, as kelv has requested this post :P):

Nissan S13 Coupe (SR20DET manual)

Nissan S14 (SR20DET manual)

Nissan S15 (SR20DET manual)

Nissan R32 GT-R Skyline (RB26DETT manual)

Nissan R33 GT-R Skyline (RB26DETT manual): there's even one for sale at ATS Sunway for RM90k

Toyota Mark 4 Supra (2JZGTE manual)

Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 5 and 6 (4G63 manual): Although in sedan form (hence not as sexy), they still look decent, especially the Evo 6 (in my eyes anyway)
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Re: Project 300.

Postby DeaDLocK » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:30 pm

Kelv27 wrote:Different people, different priorities. Some choose to spend 10k on more power while some choose to spend on beauty products. In Deadlocks case, he chooses the latter. :mrgreen:

Arse. :cuss-ing: :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby raitag » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:58 pm

can't make it tomorrow also... this weekend no go... we'll see...
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Re: Project 300.

Postby stevo » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:37 am

ognam wrote:
DeaDLocK wrote:Makes me wonder whether spending the 10k to go up to a solid 320bhp is worth it. In my case, I think not.


Bragging rights are priceless. Haha. But in hindsight, how many cars worth less than rm100k (mods included) can achieve that much power and look good? ;)

Ha! That's they key.. I'm sure with 100k, you can make a Proton Saga have that kinda power too but saga?!?!
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Fri May 04, 2012 6:26 am

When I am back from this trip, all the parts that I've bought from group buy and Flea should have been installed. I should be able to touch 300bhp safely. Just need to powder coat certain parts and pretty much done ;)
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Re: Project 300.

Postby joe_yong » Sat May 05, 2012 12:40 am

Sam, mana buat coating? :mrgreen:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Tue May 08, 2012 11:02 pm

Today the pieces is in Macdude care at Autodetailer. :P
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Re: Project 300.

Postby stevo » Wed May 09, 2012 12:06 pm

UlysseNuovo wrote:Today the pieces is in Macdude care at Autodetailer. :P

UN memang ada standard! Autodetailer :thumbs:
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Re: Project 300.

Postby desin » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:42 pm

~hey brother, I'm upgrading mine from GT2860RS to GT2871R soon... :) Guess will get it done next week... hehehehe... :)
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:26 am

Tauke, your backside itchy? Hahaha!
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Re: Project 300.

Postby UlysseNuovo » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:24 pm

Got the Coupe out from Worldtech a few days ago...Oh, how I miss her. :mrgreen:

Just like Pistole puts it, it is still a sports car after all this years. ^:)^

Well, the bill? Ah, the bill, just one page short of DeaDlock =))

Managed to get that irritating knocking sound from suspension out of the way, so, now only hear the leather rubbing against each other and the wood that my amps attached to at the rear.

Really like a brand new car again. Just a few more things to fix like the roof lining which sags and other tiny stuff. Adjusted the front suspension, now it don't feel like a cruise liner anymore and more like a speed boat. :P Bonnet hydraulics kaput.

Only dissapointment is the chip. The whole idea of my Coupe going in was to chip and install the injectors and FPR. But the chip did not work, so, waiting for Flea to get back from his holiday to ship a new one.

Well, come to think of it, this is the first time I am spending major money on servicing, the rest is not, so, what gtfan advise a once novice member of RM500 a month maintenance is not true. Own it like 5 years and is like RM250 a month. =))
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