Idle Control Valve Information

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Idle Control Valve Information

Postby DeaDLocK » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:51 pm

Hi gang,

I wrote the below for FCCUK, but I thought I would share it here also as a reference. It is a compilation of everything I have learned about the ICV.

By the way, I bought the Kia ICV (referred to below) from a specialist Korean spare parts supplier for RM200+ (for original Kia part. OEM version is RM170+). The ori Fiat is over RM1k, so it's a big difference in price! You might be able to find it in some Kia/Hyundai service centres also (even though I went to two big ones and both were out of stock), but they can charge over RM400, so no point.

There are a few of these Korean specialists parts shops around, but I bought mine from NF Auto in USJ (37 USJ 1/1A - not far from MLM's shop). Phone number is 016 311 3548. He carries the ori Kia part, the ori Hyundai part (same price) and the cheaper OEM part.

Hope this helps!

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CONTENTS:

- What is the ICV?
- Symptoms of a Broken/Dirty/Failing ICV
- Cleaning/Replacement Procedure
- Replacement Alternatives
- DIY Gasket


WHAT IS THE ICV?

The idle control valve (ICV), also known as the idle air speed control actuator (or similar), is an electronic device that electronically restricts airflow in response to commands from the ECU, thereby controlling the revs at which the car idles. The ECU depends on different variables to determine what speed to idle your engine at, including temperature and load (e.g. load is increased if your A/C compressor is running). A working idle control valve is critical to the smooth operation of your car whenever the engine is idling (which is a lot!).


SYMPTOMS OF A BROKEN/DIRTY/FAILING ICV

A clogged-up or mildly leaking ICV will lead to your car being unable to idle smoothly. The engine may hunt around the revs, and when warm, the revs may dip too low, causing the car to stall. A completely broken ICV will lead to you being unable to idle at all, and the only way you can drive the car without stalling is to use the throttle at all times to manually control the revs.

Other issues may cause the above symptoms, but in general, if your car is idling erratically or is outright stalling while you are stopped, chances are good that the ICV is to blame.


CLEANING/REPLACEMENT PROCEDURE

The ICV is located at the top-right corner of the engine, near the inlet manifold and at the throttle body. It is circled in red in the picture below.

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You need to undo the connector by pushing down on the top part of the metal clip (the part boxed in red) and then pulling the clip away from the ICV.

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Next, undo the two bolts (circled) with a Torx T30 screwdriver.

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Then simply pull the entire ICV away. It is shown below:

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Inspect the ICV for any signs of damage. I have had an ICV split in two on me before, which results in the car being unable to idle at all. Check that the unit feels solidly put together and is not coming away or broken at any point. If you do find any physical damage, you may be able to patch it up with epoxy or similar, but I strongly recommend that you get a replacement unit (see below for notes on sourcing a replacement).

Often an underperforming ICV can be fixed by cleaning it out. Years of airflow leads to a build of up gunk and carbon within the ICV. You can get rid of a lot of this by liberally spraying carb cleaner or WD40 through both the holes on the underside (circled below), draining the excess fluid off, and then leaving it to dry.

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Cleaning it does not always solve any problems - often the only way to fix an ailing ICV is to throw it away and get a replacement.

The 20VT comes with a green gasket that sits between the ICV and the throttle body. This gasket ensures an airtight seal, which is important for smooth running of the ICV. The gasket can be seen here (the green stuff):

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However, over time, this gasket gets brittle and often cracks/breaks. If your gasket is broken, I recommend removing it completely, but take care to ensure none of the pieces fall into the abyss. Pieces of broken gasket and a bare recess on the throttle body without any gasket material left:

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Since replacement gaskets are almost impossible to find, you can do what I did and replace it with a DIY cardboard piece (see section below for instructions and downloadable stencil):

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To refit the ICV, simply screw it back in and reattach the connector. You can test the operation of the ICV by disconnecting it while your engine is running. You should hear a marked response in sound and the engine could stall, especially if the a/c compressor is running or if the engine is warm. This will also result in a temporary error in the ECU and can be checked using the widget or Startrek.


REPLACEMENT ALTERNATIVES

The ICV as used by Fiat is a Bosch unit, with the part number 0280140553. The trouble is that Fiat charges an arm and a leg for this small part, so most people source used units when their own ICVs die.

However as with all sensors and electronic mechanical parts on our cars, I do not personally recommend buying used.

Thankfully, Kia and Hyundai (Korean car manufacturers) used this exact same ICV in many of their own cars from the mid-90s to the mid-2000s. They originally used Bosch units (identical to the ones the Coupe shipped with), but then started manufacturing their own. The part numbers for the Korean ICVs are:

3515033010 (Hyundai)
0K9A220660A (Kia)

Both are exactly the same part (just that one has a Hyundai sticker and the other has a Kia one), and are physically and electrically identical to the original Bosch ICV we use in our cars.

If you need to replace your ICV, I suggest you source one of the above Korean replacements brand new (which should be much cheaper than the Fiat-supplied equivalent) rather than buy a used Bosch/Fiat unit. Then it's just a straight swap.

BMW also used this ICV in some of their E36 models (part number: 0280140575), but I suspect the price for one of these new will be similar to the Fiat unit.


DIY GASKET

I have produced a handy PDF stencil for you to make your own DIY gasket.

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1) Download this PDF file
2) Print it (ensure you tell Adobe Reader to print it "actual size" in the print settings dialog box)
3) Measure the printout to make sure it is the right size (the width should be 55mm when measured from tip to tip with the ruler running through the diagram)
4) Glue the printout to a piece of thin cardboard (cereal boxes are ideal)
5) Use a blade and cut out the stencil

You should end up with a handy homemade gasket that fits perfectly in the recess between the ICV and the throttle body:

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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby Kelv27 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:28 pm

A nice and comprehensive post on the ICV :thumbs:

Just to add, regular cardboard does the job but doesn't last. With oil, heat, and moisture, the cardboard will degrade very quickly. A more permanent measure is to use oil resistant gasket paper which is available at most car parts shop.

A quicker way to make a template is by going over the mating surface of the ICV with a marker pen and sticking a piece of clear cellotape over it. This will leave an imprint on the tape which can then be stuck on your gasket material.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby extercy » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:31 pm

Nice :thumbs: yeah .. Get some gasket paper .. Cheap for a big piece.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby jamslau » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:53 pm

Great info! Thanks! I think mine needs servicing.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby DeaDLocK » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:22 am

Kelv27 wrote:A quicker way to make a template is by going over the mating surface of the ICV with a marker pen and sticking a piece of clear cellotape over it. This will leave an imprint on the tape which can then be stuck on your gasket material.

Oooooh you manyak pandai la. And here's me measuring things out with a ruler etc... :bangh:
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby ognam » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:21 am

Good stuff deadlock. I remember the ICV being my very first DIY job a couple of years back. I broke it due to over-tightening (and brittle plastics). :duh: These should be screwed on finger-tight.

Let us know how long the Korean units last. Hope I don't hear from you until 2014 at least.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby enrick » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:57 pm

Thanks for sharing, deadlock.
I am also using a Korean one. So far so good and coming to 3 years now. :P
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby puchongbala » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:38 pm

Excellent info.

Thanks fer sharing.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby Waylander » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:08 pm

Excellent info. One small question does Ron 95 or Ron 97 fuel effect the idling of the coupe. I seem to have problem with Ron 95 but after changing to Ron 97 no problem. I'm using the Hyundai Icv as well.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby Kelv27 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:41 pm

Waylander,

The difference between 95 and 97 Ron shouldn't be too noticeable at idle. You will begin to see any shortcomings from 2.5k-3k rpm onwards.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby gtfan » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:58 pm

For the price of an ori ICV from FIAT, i can buy 5 units of brand new idling valve from Kimchi and will last years.

used unit won't last due to the plastic tend to get brittle with the hot cold cycle. I know some owner there even put epoxy glue on the plastic body of the ICV just to make it stronger.

So far, mine had been running great on the kimchi icv for many years. Got fed up with used unit which tends to crack after a while.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby Raziack » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:46 am

one more good sticky material... can we sticky this admin..
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby Raziack » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:51 am

tomake the gasket, you can buy a block of gasket paper from spare part shop and cut out one new gasket.. this paper will be oil resistant..
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby desin » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:31 pm

I posted some infos sometime ago...
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11626&p=217674&hilit=idle+valve#p217674

for the DIY gasket, to make things easier, just use 'gasket maker' (the Silicon type). The paper work as well, depends on what type of paper u used, some paper after time, it indent to 'stick' on metal and become very difficult to remove.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby jamslau » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:25 am

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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby RASS » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:53 pm

Yup, the korean made do last for years.

I'm using one for nearly two years now and so far everything is working fine.

Very good info about the DIY gasket. :thumbs: :thumbs:
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby Waylander » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:03 am

Guys I need to change my ICV.
Any problem with the korean icv so far?
The bmw icv will cost Rm 680
The korean ICV will cost Rm 250

I don't mind spending the extra cash if it will last longer.

Thanks for all your feedback
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby DeaDLocK » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:03 pm

No prob with the Korean one. But don't buy the OEM version - buy the original Hyundai/Kia part. RM250 is about the right price.
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Re: Idle Control Valve Information

Postby zainframe » Tue May 07, 2013 11:06 pm

One more thing - if you're idle valve is leaking, your boost will be leaking too. So it's not just bad idling you get, you'll get less power/laggy boost too.
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